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Eagle Lake Fish Report for 7-17-2007
Eagle Lake Fish Report for 7-17-2007
Eagle Lake Fish Report 07-17-07
Eagle Lake - Susanville, CA (Lassen County)
by Val and Randy Aubrey
7-17-2007
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We are seeing a few more clouds in the sky today. A very slight chance of rain showers exists on NOAA but at 20 % it is doubtful that we will see any moisture. But, cooler temperatures are predicted for Wednesday with a high temperature of 71. Our low temperatures dropped a little the last couple of days. We had seen temperatures in the high 40's to low 50's for the last couple of weeks, but this morning it was 41.9. We can see frosty temperatures any month of the year at the lake but in general our first freeze is in mid to late August.
Winds are the enemy on the pond. The south wind came up pretty early this morning with gusts to 14 mph by 9 AM. Gusts are expected to reach into the high teens but we have already seen a 21 mph gust.
Wednesday is also predicted to be partly cloudy with a reduced chance of showers at 10%. SW winds are expect to gust to 14 to 17 mph in the afternoon. Wednesdays high temperature is expected to be several degrees cooler and at this time is sitting at 71 degrees F.
Water Temperature
South basin: 69.8 to 73.2 degrees F in the afternoon. pH 9.35 North basin: 71.2 F pH 9.43 Middle basin: 71.1 F. PH of 9.47. The new criteria set by CDFG for posting the "voluntary catch and keep recommendation" is a uniform pH of 9.4 as this lake rarely goes below 9.2. The north and middle basins are typically higher in pH than the south basin so when the south basin is at 9.4, most likely the recommendation will be posted.
The thermalcline is starting to tighten up now. O2 levels are dropping below 40 feet and soon we will see them nearly bottom out.
No new information has been made available by dfg, we have an email into the office to see if they have been able to get their boat out on the pond this week.
Lake Conditions
Algae Locations: The lake is looking pretty good and we are almost near the end of the blooming season. We can see periodic algae blooms if the ammonia and nitrate levels increase. We have some years that are worse than others for the algae bloom. But on a bad year it can wreak havoc until it is over. We try to keep up with it's location (the south basin is usually the worst by far and generally holds most all the trout in the heat of the summer) and we will concentrate on that basin as that is where most all the good quality fish are now.
The south side of Pelican Point was clean water today but I didn't see as many fish there today. There were fish on Miners Point and the ledges this morning and the water was fairly clean. Fish are starting to congregate off Black Mountain and the south end of Miners Bay north of Eagles Nest. Fish are busting the surface on the caddis hatch which has come on later in the morning due to cooler overnight temperatures. In my experience, the hatch comes on strong when the air temperature reaches about 61 degrees. So when we have a cool morning the hatch starts a little later...and so does the bite. But most of the fish are biting at 30 to 35 feet deep (32 was the depth were we were bit today.)
Buoys are on the lake. But, this being a natural lake not all the hazards are marked. The west side of the south basin all the way to and around Pelican Point is notorious for rock piles several hundred feet from shore. Miners Point and the Youth Camp as well as the channel between Buck Point and Little Troxel Point will also hazardous areas. We will lose between 2 and 3 feet of water by fall (and maybe a little more depending on the type of summer we have) so expect the water level to drop below 5100 this season. Be careful this year.
Fishing Locations and Depths
Water temperatures have stablized but, get those lines down. The rising fish aren't interested in your worms. They are coming pretty much straight up, taking a few bites and descending very quickly. However, we have been bit trolling a brown leech on toplines
The fishing has been a little up and down for some anglers. We found the bait bite to slow down a little for a couple of days, but the trolling bite picked up.
Youth Camp to the Biology Station as well as the south side of Pelican Point was pretty slow today. Miners Point was clean today and I did see a few fish rising on the ledge but most were in water deeper than 30 feet on the south side of the ledge. A lot of boats do move the fish from one side of these ledges to the other quite often. Sometimes you have to chase the fish daily.
Between Wildcat Point and Shrimp Island (Lake of the Woods); the rocky ledges on the west side provided some action for trollers using nightcrawlers, flies and lures as well as the bait fishermen. Fish are hanging out in 15 to 35 feet of water early but many folks are finding them out in 45 to 65 feet of water 24 to 35 feet deep, especially after sunrise. More fish are starting to show up in higher numbers but still appear pretty scattered on the west side of the south basin compared to the east side. Quite often we find a lot of fish out in the middle of the lake this time of year, as long as the algae permits fishing it.
From the Springs to Eagles Nest has been producing limits for trollers and bait fishermen a like. 50 to 65 feet of water 30 feet deep has been the ticket. More fish are congregating off Black Mountain and the south end of Miners Bay (north of Eagles Nest) A lot of fish were rising to the hatch this morning but most all the catching is taking place at 30 feet. There are minnows schooling up now and the trout really started eating them this week along with shrimp larva (applesauce eyeballs describes what it looks like). The Springs to Eagles Nest has been fishing very good but the bite has been a bit sporadic this week but has lasted 8:30 AM another bite has been coming on in the early afternoon but the pond has been pretty rough to be on. Some tui chubs are also being caught, see below for tips on recognizing the difference on your depth finder.
Trolling
Some trollers are doing better than others but limits are still being caught. Most of the success this week has been in 45 to 55 feet of water 30 ft deep on the east side, 24 to 35 on the west side. The fish are starting to school up.
I did hear complaints today from some trollers catching tui-chub. Let me tell you a little something about the tui-chub that most folks don't know. 1) They appear as fish "stacked up" on your depth finder, not a bait ball but all stacked up. The school moves as a unit, not individually, that's why they appear stacked up. 2) they can live in lower oxygen levels and are often found at 40-45 ft deep when the trout are at 30 to 35. 3) Trollers don't usually catch them because they generally don't "chase" fast moving objects, however if you are trolling too slow you can catch the heck out of them. The key is to bump up your trolling speed by 50 to 75 RPM's and avoid catching them. That's all it takes and stay in the zone of the trout. The more chubs your are catching the less time you are fishing for trout. Please release these special fish safely, they are of great importance to the ecology of the lake.
Hot Lures, Flies and Grubs
Lures: Large "Red Dog" Double Jointed Sure Catch lure is doing well and medium "Goldie locks" (florescent orange and brass) has been working well too. I also like the German Brown Medium Sure Catch this time of year. But good old Needlefish were in the top 3 producers. No doubt that florescent orange is a hot color on this lake and various lures of that color often work. Since using the sure catch lures, I am now partial to using them but Needlefish have also been extremely affective on this lake for decades. Florescent orange with nickel or brass back were productive in size 2. Rainbow Runners have also been known to work well up here. The tiger and perch pattern size 3 has cooled off whereas the orange colors are now being a little more productive. Often, what is hot in one area is not in another. The red dot frog and crocodile patterns in size 2 and 3 have also been productive lures. We have a lot of baby western toads in all the grassy areas of the shoreline right now and don't think the trout have never seen one swimming in the water.
Trolling nightcrawlers is also a favorite and was indeed a very affective method for many anglers. Use of flashers is more productive in late summer and fall. Some of the trout are now pounding the fresh minnow hatch along the east side of the south basin and if all else fails you, give it a shot. (Flasher tip for Eagle Lake: shorten leaders up to 14 to 15 inches from the flashers. These fish often come from behind so quickly that they can miss your bait and hit your flashers. If you are getting lots of strikes without hooking up, your leader is too long.)
Grubs: The grub trollers are working hard but the brown has bought a few strikes. and root-beer color. Brown, orange and watermelon have caught a few fish this week. Some folks prefer to run wiggle or action discs several inches ahead of the grub.
Trolling Flies: The plain Jane brown is still providing action for us but the florescent orange has started catching the heck out of them. My best advise for trolling flies is to keep your rod in your hand and set the hook at the slightest difference in your line. If your line feels like you are dragging over a gravel bar...tick, tick, tick...and you know it's not the bottom....set your hook.
Bait Fishing
We are running 50/50 free lines and bobbers at 30 to 35 feet deep. Our free lines are sinking down to the level of the fish before they have been taken, but every day is a little different. The ledges on the west side of the south basin between Wildcat and Shrimp Island have produced some nice limits for those putting their time in and the trout have been pretty reliable at the deep ledge as long as you get your bait down the the right depth. But, the east side of the south basin has been producing more fish. The tui chub minnows (and speckled dace) are schooling up in the deep water and the trout are right behind them.
It is illegal to use minnows as bait on this lake. Nightcrawlers are the most effective bait used but some folks use insects too. The use of commercial attractants has been working well the last few years. Krill and Garlic Trout Gravy are the most effective.
Shore Fishing
As water temperatures continue to increase, expect the fish to be farther away from shore. There are a few places between the biology station and the Youth Camp where 30 feet of water is reachable by casting from shore, but the shore fishing will be iffy until early fall now.
The longest cast off the jetty at the Eagle Lake Marina will only put you in 12 to 14 feet of water. It has been fairly slow just about everywhere from shore for the average fisherman.
The Circus Grounds slowed down.
Rocky Point: Not a heck of a lot going on from shore but water sports.
Fly Fishing
Osprey Management Area is closed to human access from land until September 15, 2007. Fishing the ledges from shore has not been as successful as being able to easily reach 12 to 15 feet of water, but the fish are moving out quickly.
A few trout are rising to the caddis hatch. Sometimes the use of indicators is needed to see the slurp. Most all the fish are holding in water too deep to access wading from shore but fly fishermen in boats have been able to entice a few strikes on the hatch. But, once the hatch is over the fish are hanging out at 24 to 35 feet deep.
My favorite flies are basic. #10 and #12 wooly buggers. For this time of year I prefer brown along Pelican Point and the west side of the south basin. I like olive, gold, orange or black in the tules.
It is advisable to have a float tube or boat so you can reach those trout when they move out...and they are moving out now. Have a sink tip available.
Winds are the enemy on the pond. The south wind came up pretty early this morning with gusts to 14 mph by 9 AM. Gusts are expected to reach into the high teens but we have already seen a 21 mph gust.
Wednesday is also predicted to be partly cloudy with a reduced chance of showers at 10%. SW winds are expect to gust to 14 to 17 mph in the afternoon. Wednesdays high temperature is expected to be several degrees cooler and at this time is sitting at 71 degrees F.
Water Temperature
South basin: 69.8 to 73.2 degrees F in the afternoon. pH 9.35 North basin: 71.2 F pH 9.43 Middle basin: 71.1 F. PH of 9.47. The new criteria set by CDFG for posting the "voluntary catch and keep recommendation" is a uniform pH of 9.4 as this lake rarely goes below 9.2. The north and middle basins are typically higher in pH than the south basin so when the south basin is at 9.4, most likely the recommendation will be posted.
The thermalcline is starting to tighten up now. O2 levels are dropping below 40 feet and soon we will see them nearly bottom out.
No new information has been made available by dfg, we have an email into the office to see if they have been able to get their boat out on the pond this week.
Lake Conditions
Algae Locations: The lake is looking pretty good and we are almost near the end of the blooming season. We can see periodic algae blooms if the ammonia and nitrate levels increase. We have some years that are worse than others for the algae bloom. But on a bad year it can wreak havoc until it is over. We try to keep up with it's location (the south basin is usually the worst by far and generally holds most all the trout in the heat of the summer) and we will concentrate on that basin as that is where most all the good quality fish are now.
The south side of Pelican Point was clean water today but I didn't see as many fish there today. There were fish on Miners Point and the ledges this morning and the water was fairly clean. Fish are starting to congregate off Black Mountain and the south end of Miners Bay north of Eagles Nest. Fish are busting the surface on the caddis hatch which has come on later in the morning due to cooler overnight temperatures. In my experience, the hatch comes on strong when the air temperature reaches about 61 degrees. So when we have a cool morning the hatch starts a little later...and so does the bite. But most of the fish are biting at 30 to 35 feet deep (32 was the depth were we were bit today.)
Buoys are on the lake. But, this being a natural lake not all the hazards are marked. The west side of the south basin all the way to and around Pelican Point is notorious for rock piles several hundred feet from shore. Miners Point and the Youth Camp as well as the channel between Buck Point and Little Troxel Point will also hazardous areas. We will lose between 2 and 3 feet of water by fall (and maybe a little more depending on the type of summer we have) so expect the water level to drop below 5100 this season. Be careful this year.
Fishing Locations and Depths
Water temperatures have stablized but, get those lines down. The rising fish aren't interested in your worms. They are coming pretty much straight up, taking a few bites and descending very quickly. However, we have been bit trolling a brown leech on toplines
The fishing has been a little up and down for some anglers. We found the bait bite to slow down a little for a couple of days, but the trolling bite picked up.
Youth Camp to the Biology Station as well as the south side of Pelican Point was pretty slow today. Miners Point was clean today and I did see a few fish rising on the ledge but most were in water deeper than 30 feet on the south side of the ledge. A lot of boats do move the fish from one side of these ledges to the other quite often. Sometimes you have to chase the fish daily.
Between Wildcat Point and Shrimp Island (Lake of the Woods); the rocky ledges on the west side provided some action for trollers using nightcrawlers, flies and lures as well as the bait fishermen. Fish are hanging out in 15 to 35 feet of water early but many folks are finding them out in 45 to 65 feet of water 24 to 35 feet deep, especially after sunrise. More fish are starting to show up in higher numbers but still appear pretty scattered on the west side of the south basin compared to the east side. Quite often we find a lot of fish out in the middle of the lake this time of year, as long as the algae permits fishing it.
From the Springs to Eagles Nest has been producing limits for trollers and bait fishermen a like. 50 to 65 feet of water 30 feet deep has been the ticket. More fish are congregating off Black Mountain and the south end of Miners Bay (north of Eagles Nest) A lot of fish were rising to the hatch this morning but most all the catching is taking place at 30 feet. There are minnows schooling up now and the trout really started eating them this week along with shrimp larva (applesauce eyeballs describes what it looks like). The Springs to Eagles Nest has been fishing very good but the bite has been a bit sporadic this week but has lasted 8:30 AM another bite has been coming on in the early afternoon but the pond has been pretty rough to be on. Some tui chubs are also being caught, see below for tips on recognizing the difference on your depth finder.
Trolling
Some trollers are doing better than others but limits are still being caught. Most of the success this week has been in 45 to 55 feet of water 30 ft deep on the east side, 24 to 35 on the west side. The fish are starting to school up.
I did hear complaints today from some trollers catching tui-chub. Let me tell you a little something about the tui-chub that most folks don't know. 1) They appear as fish "stacked up" on your depth finder, not a bait ball but all stacked up. The school moves as a unit, not individually, that's why they appear stacked up. 2) they can live in lower oxygen levels and are often found at 40-45 ft deep when the trout are at 30 to 35. 3) Trollers don't usually catch them because they generally don't "chase" fast moving objects, however if you are trolling too slow you can catch the heck out of them. The key is to bump up your trolling speed by 50 to 75 RPM's and avoid catching them. That's all it takes and stay in the zone of the trout. The more chubs your are catching the less time you are fishing for trout. Please release these special fish safely, they are of great importance to the ecology of the lake.
Hot Lures, Flies and Grubs
Lures: Large "Red Dog" Double Jointed Sure Catch lure is doing well and medium "Goldie locks" (florescent orange and brass) has been working well too. I also like the German Brown Medium Sure Catch this time of year. But good old Needlefish were in the top 3 producers. No doubt that florescent orange is a hot color on this lake and various lures of that color often work. Since using the sure catch lures, I am now partial to using them but Needlefish have also been extremely affective on this lake for decades. Florescent orange with nickel or brass back were productive in size 2. Rainbow Runners have also been known to work well up here. The tiger and perch pattern size 3 has cooled off whereas the orange colors are now being a little more productive. Often, what is hot in one area is not in another. The red dot frog and crocodile patterns in size 2 and 3 have also been productive lures. We have a lot of baby western toads in all the grassy areas of the shoreline right now and don't think the trout have never seen one swimming in the water.
Trolling nightcrawlers is also a favorite and was indeed a very affective method for many anglers. Use of flashers is more productive in late summer and fall. Some of the trout are now pounding the fresh minnow hatch along the east side of the south basin and if all else fails you, give it a shot. (Flasher tip for Eagle Lake: shorten leaders up to 14 to 15 inches from the flashers. These fish often come from behind so quickly that they can miss your bait and hit your flashers. If you are getting lots of strikes without hooking up, your leader is too long.)
Grubs: The grub trollers are working hard but the brown has bought a few strikes. and root-beer color. Brown, orange and watermelon have caught a few fish this week. Some folks prefer to run wiggle or action discs several inches ahead of the grub.
Trolling Flies: The plain Jane brown is still providing action for us but the florescent orange has started catching the heck out of them. My best advise for trolling flies is to keep your rod in your hand and set the hook at the slightest difference in your line. If your line feels like you are dragging over a gravel bar...tick, tick, tick...and you know it's not the bottom....set your hook.
Bait Fishing
We are running 50/50 free lines and bobbers at 30 to 35 feet deep. Our free lines are sinking down to the level of the fish before they have been taken, but every day is a little different. The ledges on the west side of the south basin between Wildcat and Shrimp Island have produced some nice limits for those putting their time in and the trout have been pretty reliable at the deep ledge as long as you get your bait down the the right depth. But, the east side of the south basin has been producing more fish. The tui chub minnows (and speckled dace) are schooling up in the deep water and the trout are right behind them.
It is illegal to use minnows as bait on this lake. Nightcrawlers are the most effective bait used but some folks use insects too. The use of commercial attractants has been working well the last few years. Krill and Garlic Trout Gravy are the most effective.
Shore Fishing
As water temperatures continue to increase, expect the fish to be farther away from shore. There are a few places between the biology station and the Youth Camp where 30 feet of water is reachable by casting from shore, but the shore fishing will be iffy until early fall now.
The longest cast off the jetty at the Eagle Lake Marina will only put you in 12 to 14 feet of water. It has been fairly slow just about everywhere from shore for the average fisherman.
The Circus Grounds slowed down.
Rocky Point: Not a heck of a lot going on from shore but water sports.
Fly Fishing
Osprey Management Area is closed to human access from land until September 15, 2007. Fishing the ledges from shore has not been as successful as being able to easily reach 12 to 15 feet of water, but the fish are moving out quickly.
A few trout are rising to the caddis hatch. Sometimes the use of indicators is needed to see the slurp. Most all the fish are holding in water too deep to access wading from shore but fly fishermen in boats have been able to entice a few strikes on the hatch. But, once the hatch is over the fish are hanging out at 24 to 35 feet deep.
My favorite flies are basic. #10 and #12 wooly buggers. For this time of year I prefer brown along Pelican Point and the west side of the south basin. I like olive, gold, orange or black in the tules.
It is advisable to have a float tube or boat so you can reach those trout when they move out...and they are moving out now. Have a sink tip available.
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